tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post3798863922084000909..comments2024-02-16T15:14:36.719-06:00Comments on Wet Noodle Posse: The obscure gems revealed by researchMJFredrickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06881706931355203700noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-68592877026532477782008-05-21T22:25:00.000-05:002008-05-21T22:25:00.000-05:00Thanx again for inviting me, Trish! Hope I'm invit...Thanx again for inviting me, Trish! Hope I'm invited back in the not too distant future.<BR/><BR/>And BIG THANX to everyone for all your comments!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-74191148508661794712008-05-21T20:04:00.000-05:002008-05-21T20:04:00.000-05:00Thanks for hanging with the Noodlers today, Cindy....Thanks for hanging with the Noodlers today, Cindy. And thanks to everyone who has swung by to comment and ask questions. It's been an interesting discussion.Trish Milburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812010789617982102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-81637367881319173372008-05-21T19:14:00.000-05:002008-05-21T19:14:00.000-05:00We'll have to meet, then- just so I can prove it!...We'll have to meet, then- just so I can prove it!<BR/><BR/>The sixth finger is actually a very common genetic trait, and ran in the family of the Stuart kings of England. Most commonly it is no more than a boneless, non-functioning finger, and often not more than a little flap.<BR/><BR/>My step-daughter had the sixth finger on both hands, and they were tied off at birth. And guess what family she descends from? The English Stewarts. But whether they are actually connected to the Stuart kings who came from Scotland isn't known for sure. There's some evidence they descended from one of Charles II's bastards. Through my ex-husband's lineage, of course.Delle Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09551688823035092802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-82496803395229901082008-05-21T18:21:00.000-05:002008-05-21T18:21:00.000-05:00According to my dentist (one of my most enthusiast...According to my dentist (one of my most enthusiastic supporters)I have some kind of teeth that are only seen in Native Americans. But all my ancestors came over to the US in the nineteenth century, from Alscace Lorainne and they settled in Pennsylvania and New York.Diane Gastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770373530197339170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-85192748001896526812008-05-21T18:17:00.000-05:002008-05-21T18:17:00.000-05:00Hey Theresa!BIG THANX to you and Trish and all the...Hey Theresa!<BR/>BIG THANX to you and Trish and all the Noodlers for hosting me today. And BIG THANX to everyone for joining in on the comments. Nice to know I'm not the only geek who finds genetics a fascinating subject.<BR/><BR/>I truly appreciate everyone's enthusiasm for my book and its YUMMY cover (which I can take no credit for)! <BR/><BR/>ACLoucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-83740634035644777522008-05-21T18:06:00.000-05:002008-05-21T18:06:00.000-05:00Hi Jane! (waving madly)YES! That was the program, ...Hi Jane! (waving madly)<BR/>YES! That was the program, Morgan Freeman was on it too. I seem to recall Tina, Morgan and Don ALL had oral family histories that indicated Native American ancestry and yet NONE of their DNA proved that out. And Chris Rock was STUNNED to find that more than 30% of his ancestry was northern European. I was really impressed that the DNA testing could actually pinpoint certain African tribes, something few African Americans ever knew.<BR/><BR/>Trish, I've never heard of the Melungeons. But after feeling the back of my skull for the past few minutes, I can't find any lumps, so I must not be related! LOL!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-69144867092209378602008-05-21T17:31:00.000-05:002008-05-21T17:31:00.000-05:00Hi Aunty Cindy! Yeah, calling you Loucinda didn't ...Hi Aunty Cindy! Yeah, calling you Loucinda didn't feel right! ha! Lots of fun having you here today.Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-11766765707072055422008-05-21T16:17:00.000-05:002008-05-21T16:17:00.000-05:00Hey Aunty Cindy,Just dropping by to say hi. I als...Hey Aunty Cindy,<BR/>Just dropping by to say hi. I also saw that program on PBS. Was it the one that had Tina Turner, Chris Rock and Don Cheadle?Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13040629694490652973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-85769022842470397492008-05-21T15:03:00.000-05:002008-05-21T15:03:00.000-05:00Delle, that's really interesting about the finger ...Delle, that's really interesting about the finger genetic marker. When I still worked at the magazine, I did an article on the Melungeons, a group of people who are mostly from certain areas of Tennessee and Kentucky and who are of uncertain ancestry. One of the markers of this group is a cranial bump at the base of the skull. After reading my article, my mother-in-law found the bump on my father-in-law.Trish Milburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812010789617982102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-89562731518519938772008-05-21T14:50:00.000-05:002008-05-21T14:50:00.000-05:00I know what you mean about 90% of the research not...I know what you mean about 90% of the research not being used, but it's background fodder. As you know, I'm writing a 1909 suspense and the research has been lots of fun. Unfortunately takes me on too many birdwalks!jo robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824237193217632098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-68573208601475012652008-05-21T14:13:00.000-05:002008-05-21T14:13:00.000-05:00Delle, that is a fascinating tidbit about your pin...Delle, that is a fascinating tidbit about your pinky! Who'd a thunk it?!?! LOL! <BR/><BR/>You do know Anne Boleyn had 6 fingers? And that is actually a dominate trait while 5 fingers is recessive? But because most people have the recessive 5 fingers, many cultures saw the 6 fingers as a sign of evil. Or in Anne's case, folks claimed she was a witch!<BR/><BR/>I'm going to seek you out in San Francisco, Delle, just so I can see your little finger! Ah yes, we writers are nothing if not ECCENTRIC!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-69476837864439417592008-05-21T14:00:00.000-05:002008-05-21T14:00:00.000-05:00HI Theresa!*waves madly to my fellow Roser*Thanx f...HI Theresa!<BR/>*waves madly to my fellow Roser*<BR/><BR/>Thanx for stopping by. I'm still trying to get used to being called Loucinda. As Christine says, it's always been Aunty Cindy! Except for the IRS and my mother when she was mad at me. :-P <BR/><BR/>Anybody else have that? You knew you were in trouble when your mother called you by your "real" name, but if she called you your real AND middle name you were BEYOND trouble! LOL!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-64434528650387783992008-05-21T13:56:00.000-05:002008-05-21T13:56:00.000-05:00Fascinating, Loucinda! I'm participating in that ...Fascinating, Loucinda! I'm participating in that genetic marker program and I'm anxiously awaiting the results. But in my research for my historicals, I came across a "genetic marker" of my own. Not a gene per se, but something more obvious and vsible: my little finger.<BR/><BR/>I have bony, gnarly looking fingers- always have, even when I was a kid, and my little fingers have a pronounced inward bend at the top joint. My mom's hands were just like this too. Recently I discovered this trait can be traced to descendants of the Norse (Vikings) who settled in England in the 9th and 10th centuries. It isn't found in the Norse who remained in Norway, or in the Normans, only those who settled in England.Delle Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09551688823035092802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-40226248034741137682008-05-21T13:54:00.000-05:002008-05-21T13:54:00.000-05:00Fascinating story, Loucinda! Your book looks like ...Fascinating story, Loucinda! Your book looks like a great read. Love the cover, too. Thanks for sharing!Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-15947764045057006582008-05-21T13:32:00.000-05:002008-05-21T13:32:00.000-05:00DARN! Blogger ate my last post and of course, I ha...DARN! Blogger ate my last post and of course, I have CRS so don't remember exactly what I said...<BR/><BR/>I KNOW I mentioned to Trish that not only were the languages of the Native American's and Siberians similar but their facial structures were almost identical. No doubt about the common ancestry.<BR/><BR/>And did anyone see the recent program (I think it was an episode of Nature) that traced all domesticated dogs to a couple of common ancestors in China? FASCINATING!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-55976452289474392432008-05-21T13:07:00.000-05:002008-05-21T13:07:00.000-05:00Janet, aren't wolfhounds big ole luvvers? And I lu...Janet, aren't wolfhounds big ole luvvers? And I luv the Irish spellings of some names... like Niall (which is NOT pronounced like that river in Egypt no matter what it looks like). In <I>The Wild Sight</I> I have a professor whose first name in Angus, but spelled the Irish way, Aongus, and pronounced more like ONG-us.<BR/><BR/>And LOL Trish and Esri about you both naming a dog character Thor! LOVE IT! And certainly more evocative than Rover or Fido.Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-35454890291157847872008-05-21T12:54:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:54:00.000-05:00Cassondra, I know what you mean about historical r...Cassondra, I know what you mean about historical research being overwhelming. I mean, you have to research EVERYTHING, even how people spoke, if a certain food was even available to eat then, everything.<BR/><BR/>Beth, LOL on the Trish and the Noodlers band! Hey, now there's a promo idea. Too bad I can't sing worth a dime.<BR/><BR/>Cindy, it doesn't surprise me that the DNA guy tied the Navajo to a tribe in Siberia. I've noticed similarities in the language between Chinese and Lakota from watching movies where these languages are spoken. I hope that more programs are put into place to preserve the Native American languages. So many of them have been lost, and the younger generations largely can't speak their native languages.Trish Milburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812010789617982102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-6608890230594503512008-05-21T12:52:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:52:00.000-05:00Diane, BURIED ALIVE?!?! YIKES! You definitely have...Diane, BURIED ALIVE?!?! YIKES! You definitely have me intrigued to read your book. GAH! Just what I need, more to add to my huge TBR pile.<BR/><BR/>Also fascinating about the tunnel expert, Cassondra. I'd have never imagined such a specialty existed, though it actually makes sense. But in southern Kentucky? That IS a bit of a surprise.<BR/><BR/>As for the research for the historical, I don't normally write them (though often historical aspects show up in my stories) but in reading the GOOD ones (like Fo's, Christine's, Janet's...) I'd say 90% of the actual research never shows up. But as a reader, I can "feel" that it's there. Know what I mean?Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-89322417993692831202008-05-21T12:45:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:45:00.000-05:00Aunty Cindy -- She's aware of the ferry but has ne...Aunty Cindy -- <BR/>She's aware of the ferry but has never been to Larne. She married a British soldier and goes where he goes (as far as being based, but not to combat zones or other hot spots). She's lived in Germany as well. Don't know how long she'll be in Lisburn, but I'm sure she'd be delighted to show you around. <BR/><BR/>And she's a great brainstorming partner as well as a fight scene choreographer, too.Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-28809596092934030102008-05-21T12:41:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:41:00.000-05:00Terry, OOPS! I had Lisburn and Larne confused! I s...Terry, OOPS! <BR/>I had Lisburn and Larne confused! I stayed in Larne. I think they have a ferry that goes out from there? <BR/><BR/>How did your daughter come to live near Belfast? And can I go and visit her sometime?!?!?Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-28154827904865701832008-05-21T12:37:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:37:00.000-05:00Doglady, that is SOOO KEWL about the research your...Doglady, that is SOOO KEWL about the research your great aunt did and your Welsh great-grandfather liking opera! You "came by it honest" too! ;-)<BR/><BR/>Jeanne, I'd forgotten that you are also a genealogist in addition to your other many talents. I wish I had the time (or perhaps the resources in the case of DNA studies) to do more work on my family history. Being the eldest female in my immediate family makes the responsibility rest with me. I do know far more about my mother's family than my father's (the McGarys) but not much before the 20th century. Caren, I have a feeling you aren't alone in those Grab-Bag ancestors! I know FOR CERTAIN that my maternal great grandfather was a moonshiner in southern Kentucky. ;-)<BR/><BR/>My ex's aunt had researched one side of their family back to Anne Boleyn! So at least my son has some impressive ancestry on one side.Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-75804833264295196422008-05-21T12:31:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:31:00.000-05:00Aunty Cindy -- my daughter says Lisburn is landloc...Aunty Cindy -- my daughter says Lisburn is landlocked, but it's on a river, not the sea. Maybe there's another one. They do have a B&B in 'her' Lisburn, though.Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-39489797644456988882008-05-21T12:23:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:23:00.000-05:00Terry, I stayed in a B&B in Lisburn once! PRETTY l...Terry, I stayed in a B&B in Lisburn once! PRETTY lil seaside community!<BR/><BR/>Foanna and Esri, yes, the Harvard professor was African American and therefore quite surprised to have the Niall Marker. He actually went to Ireland and filmed himself on the hill of Tara (ancient seat of the Irish High Kings) and several people he met told him THEY were related to Clan O'Neill too!<BR/><BR/>Nancy, I LOVED the program where the guy took DNA samples all over the world! The part where he tied some Navahos to a specific tribe in Siberia blew me away!Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-49431776190724510292008-05-21T12:16:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:16:00.000-05:00Beth said: October can't come soon enough :-)FER S...Beth said: <I>October can't come soon enough :-)</I><BR/><BR/>FER SURE!!! ;-) <BR/><BR/>Suz, I KNEW you'd find the DNA stuff fascinating. No, I don't think they have Niall's actual DNA. What they've done is trace this genetic marker back to a common ancestor. And apparently this is easier to do on the Y or male chromosome.<BR/><BR/>So Terry, we women may be descended from Niall, but the Marker has only been identified for men.<BR/><BR/>Niall of the 9 Hostages was one of those who straddles the line between history and legend. There really was a 5th century Irish warlord who was the founder of the O'Neill Clan, but whether he actually DID all the things attributed to Niall is doubtful. We Irish have this tendency to er, um... EMBROIDER our stories. So see, I came by my storytelling honestly as my Gramma would say. :-)Loucinda McGary aka Aunty Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217492654108300014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-38279608047893220832008-05-21T12:15:00.000-05:002008-05-21T12:15:00.000-05:00I'm leaving shortly to take my daughter to the air...I'm leaving shortly to take my daughter to the airport - she's flying "home" to Northern Ireland. She lives outside of Belfast, in Lisburn. Some days everything is in synch.Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.com