tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post8043947451307134557..comments2024-02-16T15:14:36.719-06:00Comments on Wet Noodle Posse: Putting it all on and taking it all offMJFredrickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06881706931355203700noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-1211021419258902432008-05-19T21:08:00.000-05:002008-05-19T21:08:00.000-05:00Oh yes, those mistakes. In the interest of a bell...Oh yes, those mistakes. In the interest of a belly laugh, let me tell on my DH, who once, many years ago, wrote a young adult novel for a line a friend of his had. In it, he had the heroine wearing her hair in a cumberbund.<BR/><BR/>Yah know, it sounded right to him at the time. I, his mean old wife, got out my red pen...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-40903474027163402402008-05-17T17:00:00.000-05:002008-05-17T17:00:00.000-05:00Actually I think it would be a little more accurat...Actually I think it would be a little more accurate to say dresses that opened in the back used a placket with ties. Not all dresses were back-opening. Some were a wrap style, especially in very early 19th Century. Some others involved an over dress that fastened in the front,revealing the under dress that probably was rear-fastening. I have several fashion plate images that show the backs of dresses that cannot possibly have rear plackets, but they definitely look like over dress and under dress. All that more challenging for our intrepid Regency heroes!Delle Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09551688823035092802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-72561002043219735802008-05-17T02:57:00.000-05:002008-05-17T02:57:00.000-05:00Inaccuracies in fashion is my particular bĂȘte noir...Inaccuracies in fashion is my particular <I>bĂȘte noire</I>. As someone very interested not just in the beauty of clothing, but in the meaning and gesture behind them, I always read descriptions of costumes in a historical novel with a critical eye. Costume is very important to characterization--Scarlett O'Hara's green dress isn't iconic for nothing!Evangeline Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132593133675388609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-74581955864364761092008-05-16T06:39:00.000-05:002008-05-16T06:39:00.000-05:00Gillian, as I understand it women wore a shirt or ...Gillian, as I understand it women wore a shirt or a shirt-like garment under their riding habit, but I have to confess to complete ignorance on traveling gowns!Janet Mullanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04535985283731981850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-79975225342833193732008-05-15T21:26:00.000-05:002008-05-15T21:26:00.000-05:00Great post Janet and chock full of information. Th...Great post Janet and chock full of information. Thank you! I have just finished my first Regency romance and have started on my second, but I am smart enough to know I have not begun to scratch the surface when it comes to research. Any research books you consider "must haves" ?dogladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03392561174583932552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-39542074983313032762008-05-15T15:32:00.000-05:002008-05-15T15:32:00.000-05:00Fascinating, Janet! I can think of bunches of Rege...Fascinating, Janet! I can think of bunches of Regency romances that throw historical accuracy right out the winder. I confess to not caring that much, which seems unfair, considering how much authors like you work on getting it right. HOWEVER -- factual details like these definitely add to my enjoyment of the story, so it's probably worth it on your part.<BR/><BR/>Can anyone tell me where the term "nightrail" originated? What rail? Where?Esri Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329547309752835833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-41108145158670263642008-05-15T14:27:00.000-05:002008-05-15T14:27:00.000-05:00Janet, this is fabulous!I have to dash back to wor...Janet, this is fabulous!<BR/><BR/>I have to dash back to work, but I saw your "buttons" explanation. May I ask if traveling gowns were the same?<BR/><BR/>And a riding habit--I've seen pictures of it all put together, but could you explain what's under the jacket?<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Gillian Laynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15772849187702478349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-82274351102117166002008-05-15T14:17:00.000-05:002008-05-15T14:17:00.000-05:00All very interesting, Janet! Thanks for filling in...All very interesting, Janet! Thanks for filling in today, too! It's getting warm where I live and I can't imagine wearing all those clothes and doing all that work just to get dressed! ughhh!Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-87189968047869480942008-05-15T11:38:00.000-05:002008-05-15T11:38:00.000-05:00Great suggestions, Maureen!Also check ebay for vin...Great suggestions, Maureen!<BR/>Also check ebay for vintage patterns, antique fashion prints and antique or vintage clothes.<BR/>Also there's an ebay store called Heritage Trading that sells lengths of fabric printed with 19th-century block prints in India--you can't get much more authentic than that!Janet Mullanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04535985283731981850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-6021235987738612892008-05-15T11:27:00.000-05:002008-05-15T11:27:00.000-05:00Good job, Janet!The moral of the story is to not m...Good job, Janet!<BR/><BR/>The moral of the story is to not make any assumptions in doing your research. <BR/><BR/>I probably fudge on the stays. I don't think I've always had someone else help my ladies back in them!<BR/><BR/>I often go back to the fashion prints of the month and year of my books when I have to describe the ladies dresses and I've saved lots of the prints for my own use as I come across them.Diane Gastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770373530197339170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-42257842464795924782008-05-15T11:11:00.000-05:002008-05-15T11:11:00.000-05:00I'd like to point out that even in contemporaries,...I'd like to point out that even in contemporaries, it's necessary to get it right. If you're writing a younger character than yourself, you might need to research what the current fashion styles are and the common names by which they are called. You don't want to call wide leg pants "bell bottoms".<BR/><BR/>And even if your character is about your same age or older, unless you're a fashion diva yourself, it may be necessary to check on current designers and terminology.<BR/><BR/>Thanks to everyone for your advice re: naming places. I'm pretty unfamiliar with places in FL so it was freaking me out a bit, especially when I started checking city names from other states. FL has a lot of little towns that I'm unfamiliar with!PatriciaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572087157439187319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-50624687922028198552008-05-15T11:03:00.000-05:002008-05-15T11:03:00.000-05:00Oh, I meant to add that I used an historical Regen...Oh, I meant to add that I used an historical Regency pattern for a Halloween costume for my daughter one year--yes, I have spoiled her! I can attest to the lacing in the back behaving exactly as Janet mentions.Mo Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13644902211036445323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-5578899701912066762008-05-15T10:55:00.000-05:002008-05-15T10:55:00.000-05:00Janet,Thanks for suggesting all those sites and gi...Janet,<BR/>Thanks for suggesting all those sites and giving examples of common mistakes. As a person who sews and chairs the costume committee for a non-profit ballet company, I'd love to tack another suggestion on to Janet's. Another good source for costuming research is your local sewing supply store--such as Jo-Ann's. They have authentic historical patterns down to the undergarments, men's, women's, and children's, so you can see how period pieces were sewn, whether the clothes had pockets, etc. The historical patterns will also suggest which modern fabrics to use for the gowns, etc. So you can then find the modern equivalent and touch it for yourself and see how it would drape, how heavy it is, how easy to wrinkle, etc.Mo Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13644902211036445323noreply@blogger.com