tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post8887863924412446804..comments2024-02-16T15:14:36.719-06:00Comments on Wet Noodle Posse: A Pantser Dilemma--PlottingMJFredrickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06881706931355203700noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-70253960862516317252008-03-27T12:20:00.000-05:002008-03-27T12:20:00.000-05:00Doglady and CM!!!!!! Congrats on the GH final. Wha...Doglady and CM!!!!!! Congrats on the GH final. What an exciting time you're in for!Norah Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01151103954061826427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-25327427384541268662008-03-27T05:38:00.000-05:002008-03-27T05:38:00.000-05:00I could have written this post - I feel JUST the s...I could have written this post - I feel JUST the same!<BR/><BR/>CM!!! Congratulations!!!!MJFredrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881706931355203700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-26985495150008321212008-03-26T14:23:00.000-05:002008-03-26T14:23:00.000-05:00Patricia, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking...tha...Patricia, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking...that you might be overthinking the whole thing. Just let the scenes come and then just move on without over-analyzing what you've written. Many times I think I'm going to have to go back and delete a scene or two but with just a few tweaks everything works out great. :) And I'm a big believer of getting to the end and then coming back...Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-10722819163665930752008-03-26T12:12:00.000-05:002008-03-26T12:12:00.000-05:00Congratulations to all the Noodling finalists: Th...Congratulations to all the Noodling finalists: Theresa, Pam, Steph, CM, and Priscilla. If I left anyone out, congrats to you too!<BR/><BR/>Theresa, you might have a point. I do think ahead while I'm writing sometimes which screws with my ability to stay in the scene.<BR/><BR/>I just think I'm overthinking the whole thing.PatriciaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572087157439187319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-33878521020564021282008-03-26T10:55:00.000-05:002008-03-26T10:55:00.000-05:00CM, CONGRATULATIONS!!! And thanks for giving the W...CM, CONGRATULATIONS!!! And thanks for giving the WNP some credit with your finaling, even though we all know you did it all yourself. <BR/><BR/>And Eden, check the RWA site today. It's all there.<BR/><BR/>This has been a fun and informative plotting month so far, if I don't say so myself...:)Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-47569351263120675142008-03-26T10:15:00.000-05:002008-03-26T10:15:00.000-05:00Congrats to Steph and Priscilla, and also to CM!Ya...Congrats to Steph and Priscilla, and also to CM!<BR/><BR/>Yay, all of you!!!!Esri Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329547309752835833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-78259118059085909172008-03-26T10:00:00.000-05:002008-03-26T10:00:00.000-05:00I just wanted to stop by and say thanks to the Wet...I just wanted to stop by and say thanks to the Wet Noodle Posse. Your help in November, particularly with the synopsis, made a huge difference for me. I'm a GH finalist!Courtney Milanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03585322886111438759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-38170103289520309062008-03-26T08:47:00.000-05:002008-03-26T08:47:00.000-05:00okay, look what happens when you miss logging on. ...okay, look what happens when you miss logging on. Congrats to you all finalling in the GH and Ritas! <BR/>Now is there a list of the GH and Rita finalists? I haven't seen one on the rwa website.<BR/>And Diane, congrats on your 4-book contract!God Girl Gothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362990647539370745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-77407352805228656472008-03-25T21:58:00.000-05:002008-03-25T21:58:00.000-05:00Wow! Lots of comments. I commented earlier today, ...Wow! Lots of comments. I commented earlier today, then got involved in pantsing my way through my latest book. Then we had a dinner engagement tonight. I got home and was caught up in the flurry of GH and RITA announcements. Congratultations to doglady on your GH final. <BR/><BR/>Lee, I had to laugh at your comment about finding one of the doors locked. Yes, that sometimes happens. So you have to move on to the next door. <BR/><BR/>Thanks, Gillian, for your sweet comment.Merrilleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617320163408645299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-43426053813674376452008-03-25T21:02:00.000-05:002008-03-25T21:02:00.000-05:00Merrillee, I never took the time to say, this was ...Merrillee, I never took the time to say, this was an excellent post! Usually hearing lots of detailed "how-to" advice makes me freeze up, but I'm getting better at taking every little bit of advice for what it's worth and evaluating whether it works for my process or not.<BR/><BR/>And Bless You for sticking with it! A lovely lesson for us all.Gillian Laynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15772849187702478349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-48454822084299383372008-03-25T20:43:00.000-05:002008-03-25T20:43:00.000-05:00Wow! A double Theresa! Huge congrats!! Congrats to...Wow! A double Theresa! Huge congrats!! Congrats to Priscilla and Stephanie too!! This has been a great day!<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much Noodlers for all of your great information, tips and support! You have no idea how much help they have been!<BR/><BR/>And of course I credit the Diane Gaston critique I won here with making LOST IN LOVE a finalist!<BR/><BR/>I am primarily a pantser, with a rough outline / synopsis coming in there after the first few chapters. I tend to listen to the characters about what happens next. It can be a good thing, BUT sometimes they do then do tend to ramble. I can end up going off on tangents with them and then realize I need to go back or completely rewrite it. Still, it does give me a lot of material with which to work.dogladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03392561174583932552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-13971928357250552752008-03-25T20:01:00.000-05:002008-03-25T20:01:00.000-05:00Two other Noodlers have had "the Call, GH RITA Ver...Two other Noodlers have had "the Call, GH RITA Version"<BR/><BR/>Priscilla is a GH finalist and Stephanie Rowe is a RITA finalist!!!<BR/><BR/>What a day for Noodlers and noodlettes!Diane Gastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770373530197339170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-86898834203470294442008-03-25T18:24:00.000-05:002008-03-25T18:24:00.000-05:00PAM!!! That is TERRIFIC!!!Terry, I'm like you with...PAM!!! That is TERRIFIC!!!<BR/><BR/>Terry, I'm like you with the writing books - they make me freeze up!MJFredrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06881706931355203700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-60347111086349311912008-03-25T18:23:00.000-05:002008-03-25T18:23:00.000-05:00okay. now I'm calmer. I love writing as a pantser,...okay. now I'm calmer. <BR/><BR/>I love writing as a pantser, but I find I need a little roadmap. So far, the synopsis, including just the bare minimum is working for me. <BR/><BR/>So Patricia, I'm a hybrid like you - a bit plotter, a big bit pantser. <BR/><BR/>Terry O, hope you figure out your scene without too much agony!Diane Gastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770373530197339170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-57431552934978312942008-03-25T18:19:00.000-05:002008-03-25T18:19:00.000-05:00YAY YAY YAY to Theresa and doglady! I'm so thrille...YAY YAY YAY to Theresa and doglady! I'm so thrilled for both of you. <BR/><BR/>This is the BEST news!!!!!Diane Gastonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770373530197339170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-53976695592994325962008-03-25T16:52:00.000-05:002008-03-25T16:52:00.000-05:00Theresa, congratulations on being a double GH fina...Theresa, congratulations on being a double GH finalist! WTG! <BR/><BR/>Congrats also to Pam/Doglady! Is this your GH final? Savor every delicious moment of it!Lee McKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388019900085158731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-5182728452478702972008-03-25T16:50:00.000-05:002008-03-25T16:50:00.000-05:00This is such a great post, Merrillee. You wrote fo...This is such a great post, Merrillee. You wrote for twenty years before you sold? What an inspiration!<BR/><BR/>Like Terry, I adore the way you compare walking down a corridor to pantsing your way through a book.<BR/><BR/>Over the years, I acquired a shelf full of how-to books. I tried various plotting methods, from drawing up timelines to making an index card for each scene. When I realized I was spending more time rewriting index cards than writing a book, I knew I had to abandon those!<BR/><BR/>In many ways I envy plotters because I think it would be great to have even a basic road map that led me to "the end." Instead, I wander down that never-before-visited corridor, and I periodically panic when one of the doors is locked.<BR/><BR/>It always takes some time to overcome the paralyzing fear and figuring out how to pick the lock, but I get there . . . eventually!<BR/><BR/>Most of all, I find it interesting that each writer's journey seems to start and end in the same place -- with the dream of writing a book and ultimately achieving the goal of having it published -- and yet we all seem to take a different route to get there.Lee McKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03388019900085158731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-74051565596360812052008-03-25T15:33:00.000-05:002008-03-25T15:33:00.000-05:00I've tried to plot. Have the Story Magic grid, the...I've tried to plot. Have the Story Magic grid, the white board and sticky notes. But my 'plots' start out so vague -- mostly it's just figuring out one of the main characters and what his/her problem will be, then finding the right counterpart. <BR/><BR/>I don't have many how-to books; I figured if they were really "right" then everyone would be published. <BR/><BR/>Right now I'm in revisons, and have to include the scene I left off the page in the first draft. My agent said I had to show more of what happened to my hero between the end of chapter 32 and "five weeks, fice days and an undetermined number of minutes later" in Chapter 33<BR/><BR/>So -- the book has been plotted, but I have to plot the scene. All I know is what I already knew when the scene was off the page. The hero got called away on a covert ops mission, and in the course of the mission was captured. At the time, I didn't need more than that. Now I do. <BR/><BR/>Previously, the chapter ended with "Take us home."<BR/>I got as far as adding, "No can do."<BR/><BR/>So, I wander around the house, listening to the characters, trying to ask the right questions so I can flesh out the scene. Why couldn't he call the heroine and let her know he couldn't meet her? What was important enough to call him away? And that's about all the plotting I can do. The answers come as I write.Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-16753335639834454432008-03-25T14:23:00.000-05:002008-03-25T14:23:00.000-05:00YES, Doglady!!! Whoo hoo! Thanks for telling us, G...YES, Doglady!!! Whoo hoo! Thanks for telling us, Gillian!<BR/><BR/>I plot, but my plots change as I write the books. I just need something to get me going. I have the feeling plotting versus pantsing is more of a continuum than an either/or thing.Esri Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329547309752835833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-46462575078688436752008-03-25T14:10:00.000-05:002008-03-25T14:10:00.000-05:00Go Doglady! Terrific news, Pam! Woohoo!Go Doglady! Terrific news, Pam! Woohoo!Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-53031467156827527402008-03-25T14:09:00.001-05:002008-03-25T14:09:00.001-05:00Patricia, LOL! I think we're all weird combination...Patricia, LOL! I think we're all weird combinations of plotter and pantster, don't you?<BR/><BR/>When you are writing your story are you looking too far ahead of the scene you are working on? I only ask because that slows me down...and used to stop me from finishing books. But if I just keep on writing, everything seems to work out just fine. For instance, you might not know who the murderer is until suddenly it hits you that it's the aunt...it's been her all along, but it didn't reveal itself until you were nearly done with the book!!!<BR/><BR/>Does that make sense? I don't even write murder mysteries but I was just trying to show how a lot of writers don't need to know who did it or how exactly things are going to turn out until they write it!?!!Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-20732966119530078802008-03-25T14:09:00.000-05:002008-03-25T14:09:00.000-05:00Theresa, huge congratulations!!!May I share that P...Theresa, huge congratulations!!!<BR/><BR/>May I share that Pam Bolton Holifield, Doglady, has picked up a Regency GH spot? We are so thrilled!Gillian Laynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15772849187702478349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-16441412926745197252008-03-25T13:49:00.000-05:002008-03-25T13:49:00.000-05:00LOL! I love this post! Why? Because I pantsed f...LOL! I love this post! Why? Because I pantsed for a couple of years, never finishing a manuscript. I could write and even sell a short story but a whole novel? Daunting!<BR/><BR/>Then I decided last year that the answer must be plotting, and that to do so sufficiently, I'd first have to sketch my characters. After all, I'm a pretty analytic, methodical type person. Only now I find myself writing character background sketches and synopses but getting bogged down when it comes to writing the story.<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking I'm a plotser or a pantter or some weird combination. I've gotten so bogged down that I've all but stopped writing.<BR/><BR/>I think I'll go back to square one and use a little of this, a little of that. Couldn't hurt.PatriciaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572087157439187319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-1945547319799335872008-03-25T13:46:00.000-05:002008-03-25T13:46:00.000-05:00Sometimes when I walk on the beach near my house, ...<I>Sometimes when I walk on the beach near my house, even on a sunny day, there may be a fog that obscures everything in the distance. As I draw closer the details become more visible. That happens when I write. The more of the story that I get on the page, the more I can see ahead into the next scene or the next chapter.</I><BR/><BR/>I love this analogy, Merrillee. That's so true for me, too. I can't see the next scene until I write the one that comes before it. :) <BR/><BR/>And thanks for the congrats, Merrillee. And thanks for the wonderful phone call, Terry! That was the icing on the cake today!Theresa Raganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15815320170046221853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18101458.post-64345189484634862952008-03-25T13:12:00.000-05:002008-03-25T13:12:00.000-05:00Theresa,I'm sure that with more Golden Heart final...Theresa,<BR/>I'm sure that with more Golden Heart finals under your belt that A SALE will be part of your story.<BR/><BR/>Congratulations on being a double GH finalist!!!Merrilleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617320163408645299noreply@blogger.com